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[blood_riot_iori]

........what?

Edit:  And I was calling blood a faggot because he openly insulted me.  Lrn 2 read.

lol did you learn what pausetimes are yet?

So i'm a faggot because i openly insulted you?  That's funny, i guess that makes you a faggot in ATICES thread, and everyone who's ever insulted anyone in any thread on this forum a faggot as well.  Hello there pot, i'd like to introduce you to my friend kettle. "I'm not sure i'd like him...he's black".

Ya....keep attempting to make yourself sound more justified in the fact that your "being useful".  Just as you just told shinra, he didn't have to respond to you in the first place, and you didn't have to respond in this thread PERIOD.

You yourself just stated that when something is put out on the internet, that it's open to others opinions.  Well that goes for your posts and opinions as well, so if you don't like what we're saying, then perhaps you should leave the thread, since it's clear we're only going to flame you.

[Sol Badguy Z]

lol did you learn what pausetimes are yet?

Yes, I should be faulted for not knowing that hit/blockstun - aka fighting game community jargin - is known as pausetime in mugen jargin.  Well done padawon.

So i'm a faggot because i openly insulted you?  That's funny, i guess that makes you a faggot in ATICES thread, and everyone who's ever insulted anyone in any thread on this forum a faggot as well.  Hello there pot, i'd like to introduce you to my friend kettle. "I'm not sure i'd like him...he's black".

^ Wow, this is the only redeeming quality about this post, even though it doesn't make sense, it just happens to be funny.  Also show me where I openly insulted Attice. 

Ya....keep attempting to make yourself sound more justified in the fact that your "being useful".

Amazing how I can do that, isn't it?

Just as you just told shinra, he didn't have to respond to you in the first place, and you didn't have to respond in this thread PERIOD.

I'm also trying to obey the rules, which you oh so kindly told the mods you didn't give a shit about when you made your first reply.

You yourself just stated that when something is put out on the internet, that it's open to others opinions.  Well that goes for your posts and opinions as well, so if you don't like what we're saying, then perhaps you should leave the thread, since it's clear we're only going to flame you.[/b][/color]

If you like a game despite all it's faults, then there's nothing I can do.  If you're going to attack my reasonings despite them being sound and valid, then hey, let's party.

[Shinra358]

The style is Tim Burton-ish, Genesis quality, and to the rest, I'd say I'd only work on something if it's worth it.  That it being made by a single guy means nothing either - a single guy made Genryu's Blade, too.

Btw, I pretty much hate BlazBlue too, for pretty much the same reasons.  Can't say I'll play a game that I can't connect with.
And that's cool and all, but something as boring as this, amazement at how it was created by one guy or not, does not make it in any way full of win.
Actually, it did introduce new things, but it also DID make hardcore gamers rage.  For a traditional fighter, ex combos were lengthy and sometimes did more damage than an ultra, and still wound up not being completely and fucktardedly broken while at it.  Hardcore gamers rage because a lot of n00bs can allegedly now hold their own against top players - apparently, a bunch of players no one ever heard of made top rankings in big name tournies where SF4 were held.
I never said going back to the basics was a bad thing, but when it's style is as stale as KFM, things can get boring quick.
But I never attacked Borghi as a human being.    If you grew up with the fucked up stuff going on in Mike's world, maybe you'd come up with some rather weird tendencies yourself.  No one's proven that he did anything to the kids besides seem creepy to other parents, and every person that accused him of doing something to them has had ulterior motives.  You..... pretty much had no reason to bring him up :\.  You'd've been better off attacking warusaki, if you were looking for someone I hold high in mugen respects.
Having skin diseases that make you more frail to the sun makes one racist.
Oh it counts, because people tend to let that sort of thing affect their judgement.
The problem isn't whether or not you're actually doing these things, it's that you fall under suspicion because of it.  It's possible that your credibility should be questioned due to these.
The general quality of the game is Mortal Kombat DA - D - A - vs DC-ish in quality.  If that's fine by you, then sure, we no longer need to argue.
I don't know man, a lot of mugen people I know have been letting me down lately - I don't know what to expect anymore.
Dude, I play fighting games for a living.  I can tell something's garbage just by looking at it.  I also "theorize" all the time, and that's all that's necessary to determine if a game is worth playing or not.  I don't need to play and explore everything just to find that there isn't super deep gameplay in it.  Just look at the combos - everything's meant simply to combo or just hit.  There's no setup, there's no gimmicks, just straightforward gameplay and dial a combos.  SF4 at least didn't fail in this respect.

But sure, to prove myself right yet again, even though I don't need to, cuz I know I'm right, fine, I'll play the thing myself, and only waste my time proving my gut instincts and base theories on judging a fighting game through looks correct, but have my findings rejected soon afterward because nobody who plays this game will play it on the same level I do, therefore all the high level tactics go to waste because the audience doesn't know how to do them or even visualize them, nor can they be subjected to defending against it because there's no way I can play against them.  That or they'll shrug it off as being too cheap and faulting me as the problem for playing that way.  Let the fail begin -_-

I'm not even going to respond to the faggot flame-baiting me.  That's just not even worth my time.

EDIT:
This by far was one of the dumbest posts I've had to endure reading in this thread.
1 - If you put it on the internet, it's subject to other's oppinions
2 - that something will find an audience is a GIVEN at all times.  Regardless of how bad I'm making the game out to be, you never had to listen in the first got damn place.  And just because he didn't have to do anything doesn't mean I should be happy that he did something at all.
3 - "Coming from a person that does nothing nor knows how to really do nothing, I wouldnt even bother with listening to Sol Badguy Z".  What the hell is this supposed to mean, eh?  One, it doesn't make any grammatical sense, and two, you fail to prove that I have no value in this thread.  Up until now, I hadn't been flaming or flamebaiting, so what the hell are you on about me trying to stir up trouble, especially when you're trying to cause it yourself with that BS reply?

Your flame started on the 2nd post. You flamed the creator. You didnt bring any relevant statements up nor were helpful in anything. A negative opinion IS a flame especially if it contributes to nothing. I can care less about grammar but you know what im saying. this aint no job <--------there ya go pick on that sentence. You didnt specify on who you were calling a name and i posted directly before that post. (of course that too is still a flame). The post is only dumb because i wouldnt expect an unintelligent being to understand anything they are given. And just because "youre a casual gamer" doesnt mean anything. When you get up to a creators caliber, then you have something to compare to. You have no idea how tedious things can be as far as putting all this stuff together so you should at least respect it and stop trying to do a Kanye on ppl. When you get to that status then you can give insight on how someone should do something. probably not even then. And just like bri just said, you never had to post (that's your own advice now lol). A creation is the person's hard work and dedication. You down what they do, and that is downing the creator. If ya really dont know what "feedback" really is, then you should learn what it is before you go shooting out nonsense from your mouth. The creation is subject to opinion and so is what you say. So if you didnt want anyone to say anything about what you say, then you cant get mad at what ones says about what you say. works both ways there son. And you can opinionate all ya want, no one ever listens to the poor feedback that you or anyone else like you give anyway so what is the point in giving it the way that you give it? Youre only making yourself look bad because you doing in it such a wrong way. But whatever dude, its your funeral. Keep doing what youre doing and you can just expect what you know youll expect from it. I dont want to get mentally dumbed down over this so peace. I got better things to do than to pick on somebody else who's giving US something. Thats some f*cked up logic btw. I thought it was supposed to be, you make something for us, and we appreciate it. Shrugs. ppl these days. anything said to me after this would be useless cuz it wont do a thing. have fun Sol (and others like sol). Ill pray for ya cuz i know ur home life isnt going so well and it shows.

[blood_riot_iori]

Yes, I should be faulted for not knowing that hit/blockstun - aka fighting game community jargin - is known as pausetime in mugen jargin.  Well done padawon.

how long have you played mugen now?  I'd think a fighting game expert of your caliber would know wtf pausetime means.  I mean think about it...pause.....time.....have you ever looked at cns before?  You're awfully quick to rip apart someones creation yet you don't even know what terms mean?  Also the main issue in ATICES thread is that you simply couldn't be bothered to read something directly infront of your face, or else you would have realized all your feedback was already covered (and in much more helpful detail as well, rather then saying "man this is wrong and this sucks blah blah blah".  But that's ok, i know people like you who like to hear the sound of your own voice (or text in this case) aren't that well versed in reading comprehension.

Also show me where I openly insulted Attice. 

Could it be the part where you insulted him for not being as far along with the project as he could have been in the time he spent on it?  Or maybe it was the part where you sat there and repeatedly told him his work sucks, or i could have missed the part where you repeatedly tried to bash into his head that he's a terrible mugen creator?  I don't know, something along those lines.  Right so as long as your insults don't fall into YOUR idea of what "openly insulting" someone is, clearly that's not what it is then right?  I know you think (once again), that you need to make your voice heard, but the fact is that in situations like this....you should realize that you're not as useful as you think you are :/

I'm also trying to obey the rules, which you oh so kindly told the mods you didn't give a shit about when you made your first reply.

oh you mean the rules about how it's ok for a flaming faggot (you can determine the meaning of this, as there are 2...which one of them do you think i was refering to here?) to sit there and spew insults and talk shit to someone for giving us their work, yet it's not ok when people have a problem with them doing that?  Is that the rule you're talking about?  Because if so you're right, i don't give a shit about it.

If you like a game despite all it's faults, then there's nothing I can do.  If you're going to attack my reasonings despite them being sound and valid, then hey, let's party.

You mean kind of like you're doing to me, shinra, and everyone else beating it into your head here that your "reasonings" are retarded?  It's funny how almost everyday, someone on here reminds me of Tengu lol.  This is the part you're failing to realize.  Just because YOU think your reasonings are sound and valid, does not mean that they are.  I mean it's pretty clear that you're the ONLY person in this thread that agrees with your "reasonings".  And what does that have to do with the fact that you put your opinion out there, and people tore it apart for being retarded?  I mean once again, how does that differ from the fact you don't like this project and you decided to let us all know how much you think it sucks.

Also, you play fighting games for a living (to a comment you made earlier)?  So you actually make enough money playing fighting games every day to support yourself, feed yourself, buy everything you need to buy, and get by on a day to day basis, to the point you don't have to get an actual job and go to work everyday?   Is your name Daigo, Justin Wong, Momochi, Alex Valle, etc etc?  Cause if not, i don't think you're as good at fighting games as you are making yourself out to be, and i highly doubt you're making enough money playing them to justify that comment you made lol.  What I think you meant, is that you're a little better then the average gamer, and you probably make some money in side tournaments playing with your friends.  Perhaps you should leave mugen in the past and go back to just playing "hardcore fighting games", since you clearly have no concept of what it means to appreciate hard work that someone puts into something, if it's not 100% perfectly converted to YOUR liking.

I also like your comment about "hardcore gamers raging over sf4".  So they're mad because now they're playing a game where average people can do well?  That's about as retarded as the "pros" arguements for not putting console characters into the arcades.  If they're as good as they think they are, they should have no problem adapting.  I always thought that's what a pro was.

[Sol Badguy Z]

I'm obviously talking to a bunch of kids, so I'll forgo the effort here.







Moving swiftly along, hey Cybaster......



....  You partially win this one.  Noroko BARELY saved this game.  She's got some funny shit.  She's also the closest thing to a shoto (ryu/ken) in this game.  I actually enjoyed playing her, though everyone else in the game pretty much blew.  The music was great, the effects are awesome, but this is a fighting game dude.  What pretty designs the package comes with doesn't make up for the contents.

[c001357]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQe_hVlu464" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQe_hVlu464</a>

bonus combo! (not mine)

[Sol Badguy Z]

There's a more impressive one than that....


In corner

ground combo ending with trip > dp > ceiling dive > trip > dp super > land > trip > dp super

[cybaster]

Moving swiftly along, hey Cybaster......



....  You partially win this one.  Noroko BARELY saved this game.  She's got some funny shit.  She's also the closest thing to a shoto (ryu/ken) in this game.  I actually enjoyed playing her, though everyone else in the game pretty much blew.  The music was great, the effects are awesome, but this is a fighting game dude.  What pretty designs the package comes with doesn't make up for the contents.

See, this is more the type of post I'm looking for (not the fact that I "partially win"). You tested the game, saw what it had to offer. As said by Insanius, and it's quite obvious, the game is not the for hardcore fighting games experts, with very strict timing and impossible commands (hello KOF Geese and K'9999), but more for the casual gamer, with nice graphics (to me) and sweet artwork, music, etc.

It's fun, original, can bring some minutes or hours of play, makes you smile or whatever, hence it did its job. No need to learn 50 hours how to play a character (à la Virtua Fighter), since it's not what it was meant to. Anyway, case closed.

PS : for a guy who's playing fighting games as a living, why the hell don't you play KOF !? Go buy KOF 98UM or 2K2UM. Now !

[Rajaa]

Telling someone their creations sucks is not flaming. That's illogical.

What on earth does Attice's creation or thread have to do with this.

[omega941]

Telling someone their creations sucks is not flaming. That's illogical.

What on earth does Attice's creation or thread have to do with this.

it was just another idiotic argument it's done now though so who cares. I am however surprised that you didn't stop in anytime sooner though rajaa. what gives

[Sol Badguy Z]

PS : for a guy who's playing fighting games as a living, why the hell don't you play KOF !? Go buy KOF 98UM or 2K2UM. Now !

Wish I had the money for it.  And despite being a kof fan, I'm not necessarily any good at their games.

[Rajaa]

it was just another idiotic argument it's done now though so who cares. I am however surprised that you didn't stop in anytime sooner though rajaa. what gives

Just a bunch of people wall-of-texting. The situation has resolved itself, though, as it was obvious it would. Moderators don't need to always step in. Although, my last post was a slick way to tell BRI to stop talking about the Attice argument because I already told him about that before.

[cybaster]

Wish I had the money for it.  And despite being a kof fan, I'm not necessarily any good at their games.

Well, I'm a Virtua Fighter fan, but I suck big balls at it.